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[原创] Something to think about for BULLs

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发表于 2008-5-14 10:32 PM | 显示全部楼层


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1990 All Over Again?

 

 

In the aftermath of the crisis in the credit markets, many economists have said that the US economy is facing the worst recession in the post WWII area.  While the ultimate outcome of the current period is anyone's guess (many are now doubting we will even end up with a recession), we wondered whether investors and economists tend to think every recession (or even period of economic weakness) is the worst ever as they are going through it, and then once it's over say, "Oh that wasn't so bad after all." 

For example, the 1990 recession is considered by most to have been pretty mild.  But at the time, people thought it was a lot worse.  For example, in February 1992 - almost a year after the recession ended - US News and World Report said that, "The current downturn is different. Many cash-strapped homeowners whose houses have fallen in value won't be able to take advantage of the refinancing bonanza promised by the Fed's rate cut. So far, unemployment remains lower than it was a decade ago, but this recession isn't over yet, and the economy's glaring structural problems will stifle growth and new jobs."  US News went on to say that the recession would be "unlike any the country has experienced in the post-World War II era, the result of years of profligacy and irresponsible government policies."  Sound familiar?  For those interested, we highly recommend reading the entire article to see just how negative sentiment was leading up to one of the greatest decades of growth in American history.

In fact, if we were to compare the 1990 period to today, there are many similarities.  As just an example, in each period, the dollar was weak, inflation was on the high side, oil spiked, and credit markets were under stress.  In both periods there was even a George Bush in the White House! With these similarities, it comes as little surprise that the performance of the stock market has been similar during both periods.  In the chart below, we overlaid the S&P 500 in the current period (since October 2007) with the period from June 1990 through June 1991.  As the patterns show, for the last six months, the two periods have tracked each other closely.  While this is not meant to imply that the S&P 500 is poised for a monster rally, the correlation between both periods is certainly worth noting.

 

原帖由 卵蛋 于 2008-5-14 21:14 发表 3803 

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发表于 2008-5-14 10:55 PM | 显示全部楼层

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it forget to mention one FA factor behind the driving forces of the bull in 90s, which has not yet showed up today and probabily won't show up to save the market in future
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发表于 2008-5-14 11:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
Yeah, this is very interesting. Someone made the similar analysis lately. If this indeed happens, we should see SPX new high by the end of this year after higher low is made.
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发表于 2008-5-14 11:02 PM | 显示全部楼层

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what's that?
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发表于 2008-5-14 11:12 PM | 显示全部楼层

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let me first "Mai Ge Guan Zi", and give others chance to use the brain and think hard. if no one can think of this one, then I will speak out what on my mind in weekend. "gold bull silver bear" please come out and tell us what you think :(13): :(13): :(13): (what is wrong with my google pinying)
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发表于 2008-5-14 11:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 katharinezl 于 2008-5-14 11:12 PM 发表 let me first "Mai Ge Guan Zi", and give others chance to use the brain and think hard. if no one can think of this one, then I will speak out what on my mind in weekend. "gold bull silver bear" plea ...


If you let 老熊explain, I am sure he can give us 10+ posts in 10 mins.


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发表于 2008-5-14 11:19 PM | 显示全部楼层

Gulf war,

 

Iran War?

 

原帖由 katharinezl 于 2008-5-15 00:12 发表 let me first "Mai Ge Guan Zi", and give others chance to use the brain and think hard. if no one can think of this one, then I will speak out what on my mind in weekend. "gold bull silver bear" plea ...

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发表于 2008-5-14 11:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
tech
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发表于 2008-5-14 11:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 jsl 于 2008-5-15 00:21 发表 tech


we still have that, right?

just do not know what.  宽带应用?
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发表于 2008-5-14 11:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
gulf war
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发表于 2008-5-15 12:00 AM | 显示全部楼层

原帖由 大泡泡 于 2008-5-15 00:46 发表 we still have that, right?just do not know what.  宽带应用?

we need something to boost productivity. Tech has move much more towards end consumers for growth. Energy efficiency is one that I can think of but it is so damn hard.

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发表于 2008-5-15 12:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
I agree with the productivity. Remember they mentioned higher productivity recently and it sounds reasonable - why China and Russia have over 8% of inflation but US doesn't. Plus merging - reorganize the housing market, spinout - like citi tried to sell out 400B assets. Hope we're right and it's fairly long run!
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发表于 2008-5-15 12:12 AM | 显示全部楼层
Is the graph itself misleading? 07-08 axis is by the interval of 50, while 90-91 axis is by the interval of 20. We might be able to match a lot of patterns by doing such kind of trick.
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发表于 2008-5-15 12:24 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-5-15 12:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 NaturalLaw 于 2008-5-15 01:24 发表


大侠,能不能指点我们一下,如何把Gann的理论用到实际操作的简单说明?
万分感谢.

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发表于 2008-5-15 01:10 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 jsl 于 2008-5-15 01:00 发表 we need something to boost productivity. Tech has move much more towards end consumers for growth. Energy efficiency is one that I can think of but it is so damn hard.


Productivity is the key。

我在想宽带应用能带来的东西。比如说 如果视频, 语音等技术能进一步提高, 达到真正的实用水平。 那么不是可以家庭办公, 全球化办公等等了吗? 这也从另一方面节约了能源。

真希望能知道下个泡泡是什么。 不知老亥能否预测一下, 哈哈。


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发表于 2008-5-15 01:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Brainteaser 于 2008-5-15 01:39 发表 大侠,能不能指点我们一下,如何把Gann的理论用到实际操作的简单说明?万分感谢.


就是, 就是。

今天QQQQ好像就是被45度线挡回来的。
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发表于 2008-5-15 07:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Ponzi 于 2008-5-15 01:12 发表 Is the graph itself misleading? 07-08 axis is by the interval of 50, while 90-91 axis is by the interval of 20. We might be able to match a lot of patterns by doing such kind of trick.


With different scale level.....
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发表于 2008-5-15 07:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 katharinezl 于 2008-5-15 00:12 发表 let me first "Mai Ge Guan Zi", and give others chance to use the brain and think hard. if no one can think of this one, then I will speak out what on my mind in weekend. "gold bull silver bear" plea ...


End of the Cold War
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发表于 2008-5-15 08:40 AM | 显示全部楼层

原帖由 katharinezl 于 2008-5-15 00:12 发表 let me first "Mai Ge Guan Zi", and give others chance to use the brain and think hard. if no one can think of this one, then I will speak out what on my mind in weekend. "gold bull silver bear" plea ...

关子卖够了吗?不够,就都捐了吧

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