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[慕道与初信] 不厚道的问一句,上帝为什么会允许核泄漏发生

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发表于 2011-3-19 12:11 PM | 显示全部楼层


回复 20# shoujie


Basically it says there will be wars, famines and earthquakes. And there is nothing new or special because every modern people with common knowledge knows this world had wars, famines and earthquakes in the history, have them now and will still have in the future.
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发表于 2011-3-19 01:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 21# revolver


    Right!

But my reading is that this world is getting worse and worse. This is the sign the Lord is near coming back based on the Bible even if we don't know the time
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发表于 2011-3-19 11:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 22# shoujie


You have been, to say the least, misunderstanding the Bibles.
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发表于 2011-3-19 11:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 shoujie 于 2011-3-20 00:54 编辑
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You have been, to say the least, misunderstanding the Bibles.
revolver 发表于 2011-3-20 00:27



    Sorry, you are completely not understanding what these verses are talking about the sign that the Lord is nearly coming.

PS. Bible also said that why non-believers read it but can't understand it. I feel sorry. If you are humble, not to me but to Lord, you will get a help (again, not from me but from Lord) to understand His Words.

God Bless You
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发表于 2011-3-20 05:16 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 24# shoujie


Nothing is ever said by God. It's people who had said that, and some other people recorded it, and then some other people read & interpreted it in certain way.

Your way of understanding is certainly different from the words from the original verse. No one word can be interpret as 'more and more' in this verse. And if you can't even translate 1 verse correctly & precisely, how can you be so confident that you can understand the entire chapter, book or bibles correctly & precisely?
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发表于 2011-3-20 11:03 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 25# revolver


    Bible doesn't say "Three In One", but everybody knows what that means. Because Bible "revealed" it. The same to the verses that I cited.

Bible "revealed" God Himself and His Words. Even, there is a book in the Bible called "Revelation" that revealed what will happened in the future
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发表于 2011-3-20 11:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
I believe the term of "reveal" is from Greek.
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发表于 2011-3-20 07:31 PM | 显示全部楼层

三位一体本是扯蛋,天主教神学家编出来的。

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    Bible doesn't say "Three In One", but everybody knows what that means. Beca ...
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发表于 2011-3-20 07:33 PM | 显示全部楼层

你这是以讹传讹,以讹证讹,逻辑混乱。

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    Bible doesn't say "Three In One", but everybody knows what that means. Beca ...
shoujie 发表于 2011-3-20 12:03
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发表于 2011-3-20 07:35 PM | 显示全部楼层

看来你根本不懂,整个基督教都是反希腊文化和精神的。

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发表于 2011-3-20 11:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
revolver 发表于 2011-3-20 20:31



   随你怎么说都可以。事实就是事实,你也改变不了什么。
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发表于 2011-3-21 01:59 AM | 显示全部楼层
事实是,三位一体根本就是罗马天主教神学家们的发明创造,本非圣经原意。罗马天主教廷深知多神崇拜所暗藏的分裂风险,因此宣扬三位一体来刻意强化意识形态上的专一性。

可笑所谓基督教徒,既要否定天主教的正统地位,对其的大部分神学理论又不得不选择性地继承。而且其对圣经的穿凿附会,简直到了登峰造极的地步!
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发表于 2011-3-21 02:15 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 shoujie 于 2011-3-21 03:16 编辑
事实是,三位一体根本就是罗马天主教神学家们的发明创造,本非圣经原意。罗马天主教廷深知多神崇拜所暗藏的 ...
revolver 发表于 2011-3-21 02:59



    俺还是认为阁下对圣经很无知。真的,中国有句成语,叫"班门弄斧"。俺这样说俺是不谦卑。但是真的,俺说阁下比较不了解圣经应该是个文雅的说法。对不起
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发表于 2011-3-21 03:15 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 33# shoujie


You are absolutely right, I don't know too much of the bibles. I have no interest and time to read it all. Those teaching, curse and myth stories of Jewish old-timers. But I read plenty of history & philosophy. I know where does this religion come from and all the sins it has conducted to human being in European history.

And for the limited chapters & verses that I have questioned in this forum, I don't see any Christian can even give me a proper answer.
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发表于 2011-3-21 03:27 AM | 显示全部楼层
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You are absolutely right, I don't know too much of the bibles. I have no interes ...
revolver 发表于 2011-3-21 04:15



        I feel sorry . You and me are humen being. We are limited. But Bible revealed the God is infinity and unlimited.

God bless you
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发表于 2011-3-21 04:29 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 35# shoujie


    Contradicting yourself again, if you understand that you are limited, you have to confess that you have no way to judge if the bibles or any other thing are unlimited.

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发表于 2011-3-21 10:41 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 shoujie 于 2011-3-21 11:45 编辑

回复 36# revolver


    I disagree.

As I cited the verses before, the Author of Bible is God Himself. Here it is:

提 摩 太 后 书 2 Timothy

3:16        [hgb]         圣 经 都 是 神 所 默 示 的 ( 或 作 凡 神 所 默 示 的 圣 经 ) , 于 教 训 , 督 责 , 使 人 归 正 , 教 导 人 学 义 , 都 是 有 益 的 。
           [kjv]         All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
           [bbe]         Every holy Writing which comes from God is of profit for teaching, for training, for guiding, for education in righteousness:
3:17        [hgb]         叫 属 神 的 人 得 以 完 全 , 预 备 行 各 样 的 善 事 。
           [kjv]         That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
           [bbe]         So that the man of God may be complete, trained and made ready for every good work.
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发表于 2011-3-21 06:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 37# shoujie


    Again it's an intentional misunderstanding of English. What's proper translation of 'inspiration'?
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发表于 2011-3-21 06:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
The ever biggest wrong translation in Bibles is that, in Jewish word 'lady', it's translated into 'virgin' by Christians.
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发表于 2011-3-21 08:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
We are all no problems for understanding these two verses.

Again, you said you "don't know too much of Bible". Indeed yes.

End of my words of this thread & Good luck for your future searching. I don't think you can get help here unless you are humble beside the Lord. God bless you
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