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[转贴] the big pciture of housing and finacials

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发表于 2008-8-3 09:32 AM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


Video source CNBC: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=808357964

Whitney says (loosely transcribed):

  • Fed knows there is no quick fix. Every time they open window they lose fire power for next crisis. There is not much capital out there that wants to rescue brokers.
  • I keep saying we are less than 50% done with this crisis and are still there.
  • All capital raised by banks so far ($450 billion) was only to plug holes and not to grow business.
  • All banks ‘assets’ marked at unrealistic levels
  • Creditors have cut mortgages and credit lines to the areas with the worst house prices depreciation. That will hurt consumers even more.
  • Corporate loan market will get hit soon as well.
  • Maria was prodding to find out how quickly the stock prices going back to the highs. Pump Pump Pump! Whitney says: There is no way the bank stocks will return to the highs in next 3-years. No comment on 5-years out. (Whitney seemed frustrated with the question being so shallow)
  • The brokers are not growing capital and diluting the share holder. They can’t grow earnings that way.
  • Merrill raised tremendous amount of capital just to plug holes. They still have to shed asset and are not out of woods yet.
  • Most every bank has to write down assets like Merrill and raise capital.
  • Banks who got in bed with housing assets such as C, UBS, MER, BAC, WB will be in the market ’soon’ to do another capital raise.
  • Everyone was involved in mortgages. All of these banks are in trouble now.
  • 25 institutions will have to raise capital in next two months.
  • Banks will cut dividend’s. I don’t understand why banks raise capital and then still pay a dividend. It is not prudent for board members to keep paying when they are so capital restrained.
  • Fannie Freddie in same situation as every other institution. All banks are betting on house price assumptions that are far too optimistic. No banks are close to Case-Shiller.
  • Due to bank’s bath math, losses will apply to everyone across the board.
  • In 2006-07 $2.5 trillion was securitized. Nobody can replace this mortgage money and housing prices will continue to suffer as a result.
  • When Maria asked if Lehman will survive, she said “huh huh huh huh huh huh I don’t know.”
  • I am very opinionated on the short selling rule. If you want to have faith in the capital market there has to be two sides to every trade and people have to be able to hedge. Restricting free trade will have the opposite effect and endanger the markets.

 

发表于 2008-8-3 09:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-8-3 10:02 AM | 显示全部楼层

How do banks raise capital?

This lady is great.
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发表于 2008-8-3 10:51 AM | 显示全部楼层

原帖由 mikeqc 于 2008-8-3 10:32 发表 Video source CNBC: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=808357964 Whitney says (loosely transcribed): Fed knows there is no quick fix. Every time they open window they lose fire power for next cr ...

 

As to LEH, I guess she wanna say"yes", but she is not sure since she knows too much mess in Financial Sector. .

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发表于 2008-8-3 12:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Johnny2000 于 2008-8-3 11:51 发表 As to LEH, I guess she wanna say"yes", but she is not sure since she knows too much mess in Financial Sector. .


you are too optimistic.   LEH 现在如果想卖它的 CDO mess, 估计只能去火星上找买家了。 MER 的卖的其实并不好, 相当于我卖 6 块钱的东西给你 (赔本甩卖啊, 原价30), 但是你拿不出来, 那我就给你借贷 5 快, 你给我一块就好了。 对了, 你要是不满意, 还可以还给我, 哈哈。。。

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发表于 2008-8-3 12:18 PM | 显示全部楼层

原帖由 lisa 于 2008-8-3 13:13 发表 you are too optimistic.   LEH 现在如果想卖它的 CDO mess, 估计只能去火星上找买家了。 MER 的卖的其实并不好, 相当于我卖 6 块钱的东西给你 (赔本甩卖啊, 原价30), 但是你拿不出来, 那我就给你借 ...

 

 I just guess Merridith Whitney's mind at that momment. I do not think there is anyone else in Hutong is more bearish on REIT and Financial sector than me.

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发表于 2008-8-3 12:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Johnny2000 于 2008-8-3 13:18 发表 I just guess Merridith Whitney's mind at that momment. I do not think there is anyone else in Hutong is more bearish on REIT and Financial sector than me.


我认为如果能 survive, 她应该用 maybe 这个词。

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发表于 2008-8-3 01:02 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-8-3 07:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Johnny2000 于 2008-8-3 13:18 发表    I just guess Merridith Whitney's mind at that momment. I do not think there is anyone else in Hutong is more bearish on REIT and Financial sector than me.
I am scared because of my bearish view. :(200603):
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发表于 2008-8-3 07:52 PM | 显示全部楼层

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谢谢
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发表于 2008-8-3 08:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-8-3 09:09 PM | 显示全部楼层

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thank you
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发表于 2008-8-3 09:37 PM | 显示全部楼层

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这个就是大名顶顶的meredith,今天一见,确实是一个sharp的mm
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发表于 2008-8-3 09:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-8-3 10:06 PM | 显示全部楼层

原帖由 mikeqc 于 2008-8-3 10:32 发表 Video source CNBC: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=808357964 Whitney says (loosely transcribed): Fed knows there is no quick fix. Every time they open window they lose fire power for next cr ...

 

即使她分析的千真万确,股市的走法,也不见得如其所料。要不花街pro认为玩equity的大都比较嫩,我是原话搬过来,没有添油加醋,赫赫。

 

 

 

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