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[讨论] 傻问题: 为什么去年国会投票时不limit华尔街元凶当年的pay?

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发表于 2009-2-8 05:07 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


本帖最后由 firefly8 于 2009-2-8 17:10 编辑

傻问题: 为什么去年国会TARP投票时不limit华尔街元凶当年的pay?

去年国会投票时老百姓最反感的就是华尔街始作俑者收入太高, 出事后还要纳税人
掏腰包救市.最后布什等人说改了条款, limit那些人收入.我当时傻乎乎以为真limit
了, 可仔细一看, 原来在位那些人当年的contract根本不受限制. 原来只是limit 将来
contract的收入, 我顿觉受骗, 因为要限制就得限制这些肇事者的收入, 而不是惩罚将来
收拾烂摊子的. 为此我打电话给本地的参议员众议员办公室, 抗议这些条款.  
(我这辈子第一次, 其实知道打了也没用.)


后让TARP是通过了. 年终听到强盗们再拿巨额红利时我一点都不吃惊.

我只是好奇, 连我局外人都知道, 那些当时在国会的人不会不知道这点. 是不是
那些人当时被华尔街和Paulson等人彻底绑架了?
发表于 2009-2-8 05:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
Wall street workers' income are salary + bonus. I thought bonus is tied to the profit. How come the profit is negative, they are still have bonuses? Maybe CEO contracts are quite different, stock options?
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发表于 2009-2-8 06:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-2-8 07:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
I think they are all together, just a show to the public. nothing changed. 黄盖和周瑜,没有什么不同,一丘之貉,都是有钱人。
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发表于 2009-2-8 08:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 stone 于 2009-2-8 20:15 编辑

Without a leader saying something, nobody would offend these powerful bankers in the U.S.

This is also a difference between a republican president and a democrat president.

The republican love to see the rich gets richer, while the democrats don't.
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发表于 2009-2-8 08:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
现在晓得抢钱,抢粮,抢的是谁的了吧???
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-8 08:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
I think they are all together, just a show to the public. nothing changed. 黄盖和周瑜,没有什么不同,一丘之貉,都是有钱人。
linksys2006 发表于 2009-2-8 19:16


嗯, 一丘之貉. 演戏而已.
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发表于 2009-2-8 08:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
Most have agreed that easy credit is the root cause of all these, and most agreed it started in 1997 by Democrat government under Clinton, some actually blame it started in 1979 by notorious Democrat President Jimmy Carter.
Major difference between Democrat and republican is about bigger/smaller government,  sharing the wealth is part of it. Sharing the wealth without fundamental support has also contributed to today's issue.
Economy has to correct itself to the right path, bankers are not the guilty ones, government with lots and lots of "soft cushions" has been putting us far away from the true direction of economy, and this IS the root problem.
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发表于 2009-2-8 09:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
notorious? first time I saw somebody use this word on him.

it is typical republican idea that the difference between D and R is size of government. In fact, the smallest government last 20 years is clinton time.
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发表于 2009-2-9 06:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
Most have agreed that easy credit is the root cause of all these, and most agreed it started in 1997 by Democrat government under Clinton, some actually blame it started in 1979 by notorious Democrat  ...
danid 发表于 2009-2-8 20:58


这种说法其实是避重就轻。次贷只是这次危机的导火索,而真正让局面如此难以控制的,是银行种类繁多没有人弄得清楚的衍生品例如CDS之类。

如果只是次贷,危机在2008年3月Bear Sterns被JPM收购之后就应该基本结束了。而去年9月份到今天的大危机,完全是银行自身的衍生品导致的问题。
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