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加拿大央行也提示房价大跌40%了!还记得前几天澳洲联储提示要大跌40%的新闻吗?

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发表于 2020-9-2 12:40 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


https://betterdwelling.com/bank- ... op-in-house-prices/

http://www.hutong9.net/forum.php ... 9745&extra=page%3D1

最有趣的是理由都还一样





Bank Of Canada’s Worst Case Scenario Is Here, Except For A 40% Drop In House Prices

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Canada’s central bank flooded real estate markets with cheap cash when the pandemic hit, and we may know why. Hilliard MacBeth, a prominent Canadian wealth manager, released a research note for clients last week. In his post, he dissects a Bank of Canada (BoC) staff research note from 2019, testing the resilience of the banking system. All of the central bank’s most serious and outlying scenarios have arrived, except for one – a decline in home prices.

The BoC Models And Tests The Resilience Of Banks With Outlying Scenarios

The BoC regularly models hypothetical situations to test the resilience of banks. In this case, they worked with the IMF to test against an extreme hypothetical situation. The situation, while extreme, is also considered possible – so it has real value. Now, to clarify – this isn’t a forecast of what happens. However, it’s an educated grouping of indicators that often accompany each other.

Economies don’t work in a vacuum, so typically there’s a cascading effect. Usually a drop in consumption leads to a loss of employment. That drop of employment feeds a further loss of consumption. Eventually that impacts how much people can pay for home. The exercise isn’t a forecast, but it gives us interesting insights to how an economy is expected to work. The point is actually to determine if banks can survive a worst case scenario. Spoiler: They can, it’s just not pretty.

The “Adverse” Scenario Is The Worst Recession Canada Has Seen

In the BoC’s adverse scenario outlined in 2019, Canada’s GDP took a large hit, unemployment spiked, and house prices tanked. The scenario sees Canada’s GDP dropping 8.2%, unemployment peaking at 12.6%, and house prices dropping 40.9%. They also assume a duration of 7 consecutive quarters. This scenario is much worse than any other previous scenarios Canada has seen. In fact, they’re testing for what seemed like a near doomsday scenario.

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Canada’s Adverse Scenario Is Here, Except For Real Estate Prices

MacBeth points out almost all of these indicators have been breached, except for house prices. It also happened much faster than expected. GDP has dropped 8.2% annualized, matching the decline of 8.2% in the adverse scenario. Unemployment has so far peaked at  13.7% in May, pushing over a point higher than the target. He also points out since unemployment was 5.5% in January, this is an increase of 8.2% percentage points trough-to-peak. Adding, the situation is “exceeding the worst-case scenario.”

Everything but real estate prices have dropped, but as MacBeth highlights – this recession is still fresh. According to CREA, real estate prices have actually increased 2.38% since March. The increase adds to the detachment of fundamentals, with prices rising as the economy gets worse. Most risk firms don’t expect real estate prices to fall until the end of year, or well into the new year. As the banking system returns to normal, and mortgage deferrals begin to expire.

The size of decline is unlikely across the board from the current perspective, however it’s not ridiculous for some segments. Toronto condo prices are only down 1.4% since the peak. A substantial decline would need a lot more negative indicators to climb. However, Calgary and Edmonton condo prices are down a whopping 17.36% and 30.71% from their peak prices, respectively. Had you told someone at the top of those markets that real estate prices could drop, even if oil consumption increases – they probably would have laughed in your face.

Sudden shifts in economic environments can and do happen, and sometimes they breach your worst case scenario. Outlying scenarios are tested for because they are possible and do happen. A rapid deterioration of a market only happens when people don’t expect it, otherwise they could have planned to avoid it.

发表于 2020-9-2 01:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
40/100也太多了,崩盘的节奏,银行也会受牵连。应该没有那么多
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发表于 2020-9-2 01:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
Edmonton的condo 已经从高峰跌了30.71%。

如果平均跌40%,多伦多肯定会跌得更惨
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-9-2 01:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
人在大湖 发表于 2020-9-2 01:05 PM
40/100也太多了,崩盘的节奏,银行也会受牵连。应该没有那么多

40%一点不多,上一次熊市,1989年多伦多均价27.4万跌到1996年,耗时7年,跌幅就是朝着40%目标位去的,这一次加上疫情影响,不会比上一次少的
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-9-2 01:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
上一个关于澳洲联储的帖子我为什么要转发,是因为觉得像联储,央行这种角色都这样提示风险,是很值得大家重视的,不过,似乎大家对上一个帖子不太关注
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-9-2 02:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
zzcheng 发表于 2020-9-2 01:31 PM
40%一点不多,上一次熊市,1989年多伦多均价27.4万跌到1996年,耗时7年,跌幅就是朝着40%目标位去的,这一 ...

上一次熊市,1989年多伦多均价27.4万跌到1996年19.8万
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发表于 2020-9-2 03:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
zzcheng 发表于 2020-9-2 02:49 PM
上一次熊市,1989年多伦多均价27.4万跌到1996年19.8万

到2009年才涨回1989价格
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发表于 2020-9-2 05:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
zzcheng 发表于 2020-9-2 02:49 PM
上一次熊市,1989年多伦多均价27.4万跌到1996年19.8万


才28%,哈哈,还好啦。上次债务没有这次这么严重吧?而且失业也没有这次严重。

不过,能跌28%,我也满意了。
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发表于 2020-9-2 05:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
帮你用简单的方法把内容copy过来了。

简单的方法见这里:http://www.hutong9.net/forum.php ... &extra=page%3D1
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发表于 2020-9-3 10:24 AM | 显示全部楼层
啥时候开始跌呢?
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